Trigger happy warning: this article contains at least one mild expletive, and given the mood I'm in may well contain a few more by the time I've finished.
Doing an inbox cleanup this am. I was smart enough to save this, though I’m late in reading it. I have not read Ulysses either. Never missed it. I adore Austen and would only offer up “ that’s just the way it was then” in response to your comments. I love Abbott and Costello. You’re such a solid bloke. Thanks for the laughs.
I think I read all of Joice's big work, from Portrait of the Artist ( my god, I even remember the place I read it 50 years ago) to his life in Triest, his uneducated wife, former chambermaid, to Ulysses and his Jewish protagonist. So what? I understand how Ireland can be proud of their writers. But he is not my writer. And not yours. That is that.
I am definitely not his aficionado, but as a Russian philologist, I read everything of foreign literature translated into Russian because Soviet literature was so dull that it was impossible to read.
Good to hear you're feeling better, sir. And to see that you've finally unveiled the arcane on the lit crit mysterious references! (Some of which I guessed right; others were a bit too much for me). :)
The Barthes' codes. That's it lol. Why didn't I put it in the comments? Was I supposed to? Not sure I remember. In any event, it felt like a well-kept secret that shouldn't be given away 😂
OK, well thanks for keeping it then. I've read all about them, and I'm still not much wiser. It's a shame, because I feel my life has been meaningless without access to those codes.
Sorry to hear of the long recovery. Hope that's just about done with now.
I will stay out of the Joyce comments other than to say I enjoyed reading about the reading and the opinions therein. It might be something I get to one day, I'm not sure. Maybe Kate's suggestion of Dubliners is a better place to start with Joyce, though.
RE: "Moreover, the charging socket is on the underside of the mouse, meaning that you can’t use it while it’s plugged in." -- yes, Jo has one of these for her Mac. A most baffling design decision.
I don't blame you. Dubliners has everything: good stories, characters and locations, and good literary devices.
I bought another one, one with the socket in the front, but have to return it because the box it came in was open. The Mac one is a surprisingly stupid design.
2) I understand the resistance (I studied under British Modernists in university and did my papers on the works of Joyce), but i found Ulysses to be, well, a cozy read. The best part was wandering around Dublin and following around with the book (although some spots are best visited during daylight hours, and "Statley plump" nothin' is getting up the stairs of the Martello Tower). It is, however, a lot. It's one of those books that is always worth a try. Heck, it gets funnier every time. Well worth your while to get to the Nighttown section.
3) Yea. Jane Austin. That's social satire, and i hazard that if she were in that lecture hall, she'd be with you. For what it's worth, I would be.
2. Cozy? Gosh, never heard it described as such. I can understand the pleasure of waking around Dublin with the book. I think i should like to do that with Dubliners one of these days. Përgjakshme I will try Ulysses one day, when ive finished my current batch of reading which is for a course I'm on. Thanks!
3. I am certain of it!
4. Thank you for the link. That loiks like a useful summary.
Thanks. I THOUGHT I was, but wasted a few hours yesterday with my head going round, probably because of post- vital malaise and consequent poor sleep. Such a pain.
I love your dialogue. You're a funny bloke. Maybe screenwriting is too low brow for you but I think you would kick butt in that genre.
Meanwhile, I am a base American when it comes to literature. I've read many classics (not Ulysses) but these days the book must be recommended by someone whose taste aligns with mine. My sis and ma are reliable. My MIL-- never again. She finds the most dull and mundane intriguing. Hehe.
Thanks! Ive been told that before, about my dialogue i mean. I discovered that accidentally.
As for screenwriting, i don't think i have the confidence. All, prompts by your comment i checked to see if there's an introductory course on it, and there is. So maybe I will do that, although the fact that it's a one day course online in the summer does put me off a bit.
There’s a book called Save the Cat. It’s a screenwriter’s bible. Apparently many successful novelists and memoirists use this formula as well. Some probably without knowing as it’s a natural, intuitive way to tell a story.
Doing an inbox cleanup this am. I was smart enough to save this, though I’m late in reading it. I have not read Ulysses either. Never missed it. I adore Austen and would only offer up “ that’s just the way it was then” in response to your comments. I love Abbott and Costello. You’re such a solid bloke. Thanks for the laughs.
Thanks, Jeanne! I agree with you about the days of Austen. I just fancied being a bit provocative.
'The biggest let-down was the students.'
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You're VERY welcome, Terry! 😉
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I think I read all of Joice's big work, from Portrait of the Artist ( my god, I even remember the place I read it 50 years ago) to his life in Triest, his uneducated wife, former chambermaid, to Ulysses and his Jewish protagonist. So what? I understand how Ireland can be proud of their writers. But he is not my writer. And not yours. That is that.
Well, I liked Dubliners, which is the only Joyce book I've read. You sound like a Joyce afficianado!
I am definitely not his aficionado, but as a Russian philologist, I read everything of foreign literature translated into Russian because Soviet literature was so dull that it was impossible to read.
😂 Have you ever read The Compromise? Its hilarious. I reviewed it. I will try and find it and post it on Substack
I have no idea what you are talking about. The Compromise... Please post it on Substack. Specially, hilarious compromise.
Will do
Good to hear you're feeling better, sir. And to see that you've finally unveiled the arcane on the lit crit mysterious references! (Some of which I guessed right; others were a bit too much for me). :)
Thanks, Silvio. Which ones did you work out? And why didn't you put your suggestions in the comments? 😁
The Barthes' codes. That's it lol. Why didn't I put it in the comments? Was I supposed to? Not sure I remember. In any event, it felt like a well-kept secret that shouldn't be given away 😂
OK, well thanks for keeping it then. I've read all about them, and I'm still not much wiser. It's a shame, because I feel my life has been meaningless without access to those codes.
You are seen, good sir - I hope you are feeling better soon.
Thanks!
Ah, welcome back Terry! We've missed you.
Sorry to hear of the long recovery. Hope that's just about done with now.
I will stay out of the Joyce comments other than to say I enjoyed reading about the reading and the opinions therein. It might be something I get to one day, I'm not sure. Maybe Kate's suggestion of Dubliners is a better place to start with Joyce, though.
RE: "Moreover, the charging socket is on the underside of the mouse, meaning that you can’t use it while it’s plugged in." -- yes, Jo has one of these for her Mac. A most baffling design decision.
Thanks, Nathan.
Not quite, sadly.
I don't blame you. Dubliners has everything: good stories, characters and locations, and good literary devices.
I bought another one, one with the socket in the front, but have to return it because the box it came in was open. The Mac one is a surprisingly stupid design.
PS excellent to hear about the students. And yes, most definitely down to the teacher. ;)
Indeed! Thanks! Chortle.
Just a few things:
1) Speedy recovery, Sir!
2) I understand the resistance (I studied under British Modernists in university and did my papers on the works of Joyce), but i found Ulysses to be, well, a cozy read. The best part was wandering around Dublin and following around with the book (although some spots are best visited during daylight hours, and "Statley plump" nothin' is getting up the stairs of the Martello Tower). It is, however, a lot. It's one of those books that is always worth a try. Heck, it gets funnier every time. Well worth your while to get to the Nighttown section.
3) Yea. Jane Austin. That's social satire, and i hazard that if she were in that lecture hall, she'd be with you. For what it's worth, I would be.
4) Ahem...
https://philosophynow.org/issues/10/A_Gentle_Introduction_to_Structuralism_Postmodernism_And_All_That
1. Thank you!
2. Cozy? Gosh, never heard it described as such. I can understand the pleasure of waking around Dublin with the book. I think i should like to do that with Dubliners one of these days. Përgjakshme I will try Ulysses one day, when ive finished my current batch of reading which is for a course I'm on. Thanks!
3. I am certain of it!
4. Thank you for the link. That loiks like a useful summary.
Very entertaining, my friend. You have SO MUCH going on in your head, I wonder how you manage to sort it all out!
Me too! 😂 Thanks, Sharron.
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Oh, I almost DM'd you. I was getting worried. Glad you're healed.
Thanks. I THOUGHT I was, but wasted a few hours yesterday with my head going round, probably because of post- vital malaise and consequent poor sleep. Such a pain.
I love your dialogue. You're a funny bloke. Maybe screenwriting is too low brow for you but I think you would kick butt in that genre.
Meanwhile, I am a base American when it comes to literature. I've read many classics (not Ulysses) but these days the book must be recommended by someone whose taste aligns with mine. My sis and ma are reliable. My MIL-- never again. She finds the most dull and mundane intriguing. Hehe.
PS not lowbrow at all. I don't know enough about it! I also go for recommendations by people I know, so you are not alone!
Thanks! Ive been told that before, about my dialogue i mean. I discovered that accidentally.
As for screenwriting, i don't think i have the confidence. All, prompts by your comment i checked to see if there's an introductory course on it, and there is. So maybe I will do that, although the fact that it's a one day course online in the summer does put me off a bit.
There’s a book called Save the Cat. It’s a screenwriter’s bible. Apparently many successful novelists and memoirists use this formula as well. Some probably without knowing as it’s a natural, intuitive way to tell a story.
The rest is formatting.
what, this one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Save-Cat-Goes-Movies-Screenwriters/dp/1932907351/ From reading the ToC, it looks like what non-screen writers do when writing a story (story arc). I'll see if my library has it. Thanks very much!
https://www.amazon.com/Save-Last-Book-Screenwriting-Youll/dp/1932907009?dplnkId=bd69c21e-2e79-4498-8b83-710b21d0b8c3&nodl=1
Maybe the UK link is same book with a variation of title for the UK crowd?
Oh yes, same one. Cheers